Ironically the only changes or new light is just even dumber explanations to make the BS seem plausible...see generation change v3.5
darth frosty
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Those who study the bible, being told to 'wait' for the WT to get to things.....
by EndofMysteries inonce thing i've noticed and from my relatives, is they may acknowledge that things are not understood or maybe incorrect in their understanding from the wt magazines, but they say not to rush ahead, it will eventually be sorted out.
without even trying to argue about that, just think for the past 5, 10, 20 years, what 'new understanding' and changes in the deep things have come?
if that was true, then at meetings would consistently be learning new material, new insight and understanding.
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This IS NOT the religion I grew up in or STUPID enough to join - true? YES! vote
by hamsterbait ini have just finished ray franz "crisis of conscience":.
i agree with him that this "truth" has become like living in a police state, in fear of saying or doing anything that might even retroactively label you a "wicked person".
i was dragged up from the late 60s.
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darth frosty
I understand what you are saying. Born in grew up in the 70's and even tho it always had High control group tactics, due the the end time they pointed to that made a difference.
Yeah yeah I know they have always date fixed but when you are in the middle (or better yet the end) of said dates it seemed easier to accept some of the bullshit. But once that date comes and goes (and than the alternative date also) IMO your eyes should than be forced to examine.
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The US Will Become a Police State (not a joke)
by metatron inhttp://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security/behind-closed-doors-congress-trying-force-indefinite-detention-bill-americans.
this is not some made up, exaggerated joke.
the bill of rights may be effectively canceled in the next few months.. metatron.
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I think we have it backwards
by lrkr inyou know how when people come out of being a jw they say things like- but the bible is a good book- its just the religion that is bad.
or when describing muslim extremists commit some atrocity, people say- the religion is bad- but the koran is a good book.
or when you observe orthodox jews abusing members of their family- it is said- its the religion that is confining and doent allow leaders to be held accoutable- but the torah is a good book.. i think we have it backwards!!
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darth frosty
in my opinion you are right!
its all about the nature of relion and whats behind them. the abrahamic religions have ALL been about control.
thats why greek and roman gods have no effect today. while they may be older than the big 3 there was no control aspect to them.
the big 3 has embedded control devices and rules that makes it appealing to those who seek power and control over others and those who need to be under a strict religous yoke.
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My first conversation with an "anointed"
by Terry ini was not "born in".. i was recruited.. i've told the story dozens of times.. it began as a "best friend" at school comraderie and ended with my baptism 4 or 5 years later.. i had no desire up front to join any church or attend any services or even to associate myself with people who talk about "god" and "faith".. it creeped me out.. my family was not sociable.
they were like hermits.. my grandmother had been reared catholic and had attended convent school.
she told horror stories about the stern, disciplinarian mother superior and corporal punishments by the nuns.. i had the bible read to me barely at all.
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darth frosty
She told me I reminded her of the actor, Randolph Scott.
RANDOLPH SCOTT!!!
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'Where else is there to go'? Thoughts I had this morning--and evening...
by sd-7 ini was just thinking of something this morning.
when presented with the possibility that the witnesses could be wrong, the typical response is 'where else is there to go?
' in short, 'if not us, who?
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darth frosty
good points as always SD
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Stephen Hawkings and Richard Dawkins attend the Jehovah's witnesses two-day assembly program at London Edgware assembly hall
by mankkeli inhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-15834523.
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darth frosty
we cant see the vid cause they were ridiculers and they came with their ridicule.
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The Irony....(brother) Prince
by Simon Morley inso ("brother) prince is coming to town and he is quoted as saying that "as a baptized jehovah's witness he has put his past behind him".
on one hand he is allowed to put on such a concert that the gb states that baptized jehovah's witnesses should not go to.
would the gb frown on (brother) prince attending his own concerts?
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darth frosty
morbidzbaby- I believe the reason these celebs get a free pass, whereas the normal pissant rank and file do not, is a simple thing indeed. MONEY.
Really its not that its the publicity that they are scared of. They let prince and the williams sisters get away with 'double lives' that most dubs would be hauled to the back room for because they are scarded of the public backlash that would come.
kinda ironic for the group that once declared they would ADVERTISE ADVERTISE ADVERTISE the king and his kingdom.
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In the LAST DAYS (mockers, scoffers) ridiculers will come saying:
by Terry in(2 peter 3:1-13) ... niv....."in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.they will say, where is this coming he promised?
ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.
waaaaay back when these words were written an embarassing awareness of delay was in the air among christians.. shortly after jesus was executed the story was circulated that he arose from the dead and was witnessed by a great many people.. but, jesus (it was said) went up to his father in heaven and would soon return.. time passed.. more time passed.. ....and still more time passed without jesus coming back.. the idea that deliverance was "near" began to make believers squirm with discomfort.. instead of standing around waiting, enduring persecution and praying constantly for reward....a new task emerged for christians to take.
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darth frosty
Sab:How long is an age?
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In the LAST DAYS (mockers, scoffers) ridiculers will come saying:
by Terry in(2 peter 3:1-13) ... niv....."in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires.they will say, where is this coming he promised?
ever since our ancestors died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation.
waaaaay back when these words were written an embarassing awareness of delay was in the air among christians.. shortly after jesus was executed the story was circulated that he arose from the dead and was witnessed by a great many people.. but, jesus (it was said) went up to his father in heaven and would soon return.. time passed.. more time passed.. ....and still more time passed without jesus coming back.. the idea that deliverance was "near" began to make believers squirm with discomfort.. instead of standing around waiting, enduring persecution and praying constantly for reward....a new task emerged for christians to take.
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darth frosty
I just watched the movie caligula (which holds up well considering it was made in 79.) As I was watching I thought 'I can see how some looking on the decadance of that time would dream up the savior scenario that we have in the new testament.'
To all who hold that jesus is coming you really should investigate the times and mindset of those who were alive back than.